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Suicide

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 7:51 pm
by UnknownSoldier
I probably did not even spell that right, yes, I am here to make another rant. Seems logical since I come here mroe than anywhere else to talk about the service and the diffrent situations pertaining to it.

The suicide rate has risen again for soldiers coming home from the war. It is now the higest it has ever been. Want to know why? Because the Government is still passing the buck. How many good men and women have to die before they realize they need to do more than say " Dismissed, go enjoy civilian life"

Re: Suicide

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:01 pm
by Wesley
I just watched an hour long program about this. All I could think about was my father, who was in the Navy in the Viet Nam era, my brother, who just joined the Navy, and UnknownSoldier. It is bad enough when the man on the street does not understand or respect what these servicemen do for our country, but when the government of the country itself treats the men and women who fought for the very rights and freedoms that keep the country going like they are outcast or nothing is wrong or,"Sorry, try again later"..... Maybe 200 years ago when we did not have all this technology, but now, in the most advanced nation on the planet, to leave these people without help, without hope, it is inexcusable.

Damn, did not mean to rant after your rant. But you know what I am saying.

Re: Suicide

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:41 pm
by Eff
I was scared to death of what i was going to see in this topic .
I'm happy (hope) you don't have any suicide thoughts man please NO .
I have one important thing to tell you :
UnknownSoldier wrote: How many good men and women have to die before they realize they need to do more than say " Dismissed, go enjoy civilian life"
Its like that EVERYfukinWHERE okay?
Now ..No matter how many would die ..many of'em ..NOTHING would change .
You're dissmissed now so its easier for'eM gover' to forget and ignore . you're on your own . No matter what .
that's sad . But you are the one to save you . Do it foking do it now . save yourself , you feel weak but you're not .you have power inside of you
FIND IT -
USE IT-
PLEASE .
You're gonna be ''up'' soon .
Zot said once '' Remember the good times and learn from the bad times " Umm ..or something like that .

Now i'ma log out coz you made me feel bad .

Re: Suicide

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:52 pm
by chex
Heh, yeah, I was scared, too.

US and Zot, there's nothing I can say that you guys haven't already said, but I didn't want to just ignore this topic.

Re: Suicide

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 9:15 pm
by LaLou
I second that.

Re: Suicide

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 9:20 pm
by Beany
Third - it's just cos the Governments don't seem to understand that people need a better way to continue life. How is it that you can get therapy and help for emotional reasons if you have a miscarriage but you can't for seeing people who've come to help you defend everyone else die?

Re: Suicide

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 9:26 pm
by chex
Well, you can get therapy for any reason. It's a matter of money.

Re: Suicide

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 9:27 pm
by Beany
In England you can get it free for miscarriages.

Re: Suicide

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 9:34 pm
by UnknownSoldier
I'm gonna miss that smile. i'm gonna miss you my friend. even though it hurts the way it ended up I'd do it all again. so play it sweet in heaven cause thats right where you wanna be. i'm not cryin cause I feel so sorry for ya... i'm cryin for me.

Re: Suicide

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 9:36 pm
by chex
What's that from?

Re: Suicide

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 5:51 am
by Giana
I was scared too when i saw this topic and i am not convinced that US doesnt have those thoughts :(
We are here for you,just tell us how we can help you :rub:

Re: Suicide

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 7:59 am
by Eff
UnknownSoldier wrote:I'm gonna miss that smile. i'm gonna miss you my friend. even though it hurts the way it ended up I'd do it all again. so play it sweet in heaven cause thats right where you wanna be. i'm not cryin cause I feel so sorry for ya... i'm cryin for me.
THAT'S NOT FAIR SOLDIER .
Come'on and show us your foking smile !

Re: Suicide

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 8:16 am
by Shay
I do not have the words. I'm sorry, all I can do is sit in silence. This thread does not go unnoticed, and I am very relieved it was not what I thought it was.

Re: Suicide

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 9:12 am
by Eff
Shay wrote:I am very relieved it was not what I thought it was.
I'm not sure about it , He sounds broke , he is down .

He's talking shazam! and he can't see the good things coz he's all covered with bad thoughts .
Plz US . do something . Talk to freinds to family or wot ever , Help your self . We care for you god dammm you!

Re: Suicide

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:15 pm
by UnknownSoldier
I do not believe in suicide. simple as that. there is not enough alcohol in the state of florida to change that. i recently had afellow soldier i knew and fought beside kill himself

Re: Suicide

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 1:04 pm
by Eff
Well good then . Now not believing in suicide is not enough , You should believe in god or faith or life or yourself or whatever and play the game to winnn . You will win now or later.

Re: Suicide

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 7:47 am
by Giana
UnknownSoldier wrote:I do not believe in suicide.
:whew: it's soo good to hear that!

Re: Suicide

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 12:46 am
by UnknownSoldier
Effie wrote:Well good then . Now not believing in suicide is not enough , You should believe in god or faith or life or yourself or whatever and play the game to winnn . You will win now or later.
I do not believe in God nor faith. I refuse to believe that a diety so "loving and forgiving" would allow any man or woman to see and remember the things I have done. To believe in God would be to "damn my soul to eternal hell for the sins I have committed. " In my opinion, the world I live in is hell. So that also negates believing in life. To believe in myself would be to say all the things I have done were good and just. So I can not believe in myself either.

I believe in my kids.

Re: Suicide

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 1:15 am
by Eff
UnknownSoldier wrote:To believe in myself would be to say all the things I have done were good and just.
No body's perfect you know .. We need to stand behind our past (AND shazam!) and look forward right? Make things better . smile .

Re: Suicide

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 1:16 am
by chex
UnknownSoldier wrote:To believe in myself would be to say all the things I have done were good and just.
You're human, just like the rest of us.